Sept. 13, 2024

S6, Ep 108: Tricos, Temps and Tall Boys: Dustin White's Wyoming Update

In this episode of The Articulate Fly, host Marvin Cash reconnects with Dustin White for another insightful "On the Water" segment. Dustin shares his recent adventures, including a brief trip to Colorado, and dives into the current fishing conditions in central Wyoming. He provides updates on the hatches, noting the variability in caddis and trico hatches and the impact of weather changes on fishing success. Dustin also discusses the challenges posed by grassy conditions, especially for streamer fishing, and highlights the productive areas on the Reef and the Mile.

Listeners will enjoy Dustin's recommendations for local spots, including the Sunset Grill in Alcova, known for its great service, greasy burgers and dive bar atmosphere. He also mentions the Windy Waters RV Park for those needing a place to stay after a long day on the water.

As always, Marvin encourages listeners to send in their questions for a chance to win Articulate Fly swag and be entered into a drawing for a half-day fishing trip with Dustin. Don't miss this episode packed with practical fishing tips, local insights and a touch of humor.

To learn more about Dustin, check out our full length interview.


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Transcript
Marvin Cash:

Hey, folks, it's Marvin cash, the host of the articulate fly. We're



Marvin Cash:

back with another on the water with Dustin White. Dustin.



Dustin White:

How are you, Marvin? I'm doing well.



Dustin White:

How are you doing today?



Marvin Cash:

As always? Just, uh, trying to stay out of trouble and, uh, you've



Marvin Cash:

been traveling around a little bit, but, uh, you're kind of back in the saddle



Marvin Cash:

in central Wyoming.



Dustin White:

Yeah, just a couple days, uh, off to dip down



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south. Uh, Jamie, my wife and I with two friends



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went down to Colorado to, uh, you



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know, first watch our browns get beat up by the



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cowboys and, uh, at a browns backers bar.



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And then, um, yeah, went to a concert after that. So,



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yeah, it just took a couple days, uh, to dip down south



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and, yeah, uh, back at it.



Marvin Cash:

Yeah. So how was the Leo sear concert?



Dustin White:

Yeah, as enjoyable as expected.



Dustin White:

As expected.



Marvin Cash:

So, you know, it's kind of funny. Looked, uh, at your weather



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and, you know, you're kind of getting that kind of typical late summer,



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early fall, central Wyoming weather where it's kind of cooling



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off a little bit, but you're getting kind of windy days, you know,



Marvin Cash:

no real rain. What are you seeing on the water?



Dustin White:

Been a little



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hatches. I mean, we are. We are getting the



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hatches that you would expect to see



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in terms of, you know, tricos in the morning, uh,



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afternoon, um, a good cattus



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hatch. Um, and then, um, you



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know, some, some modest blue wing



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hatches. Um, the degree



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of health, uh, of those hatches



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has been what's been very day to day.



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So we're getting some days where it's just a



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prolific cat as hatch and there's heads



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of fish, uh, in that late afternoon, early evening



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timeframe, just everywhere. And then, uh,



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you go out the next day and



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it's significantly reduced, uh,



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kind of waiting on that, that cool off to hit us. Um,



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we're waiting for flows to kind of drop



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a little bit more on the reef and that, that should help that.



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But yeah, having, having a little more



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temperate, um, you know, temps,



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some more mild temps, uh, is really, really going to



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help us. Having a little more cloud cover come through is really, really going



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to help us. But we still have some



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remarkably solid fishing, um, on



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the horn, still very



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grassy. Um, and, uh,



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you know, that can pose a little bit of problems, especially if folks are



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wanting to streamer fish. You know, you're raking in a lot of



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grass. Um, but in terms of bugs,



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you know, uh, cattus definitely are working



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well. Uh, see, PMD is actually some kind of



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late summer PMD's, uh, coming off there. Um,



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sow bugs have, uh, as always, have been



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really, really effective. Moving to the



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mile trichos, definitely in the morning have



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been, ah, the standard fare. Still



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eating Amelia, still eating caddis. Um,



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we've had some smaller to



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medium sized fish eating pretty well on the



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surface. But the big mile



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fish that folks want to go there to target, they're not



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quite looking up yet. So we're still a



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few days out from that, um, again, looking



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for that, uh, uh, that, that temp drop



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to, to come into play. And we should start seeing some, some



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productive fishing on that front. Uh, uh,



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in terms of the reef, you know, we're starting to fish some of the lower



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sections of it. The upper reef, pretty mossy,



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pretty grassy. Um, um, but have had some,



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you know, remarkably solid streamer days. Some, some



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really, really enjoyable streamer days. Uh, uh, the



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grass in that mid, lower section has just



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been pretty, um, thin. So that's been



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really, really helpful there. And again, day, uh, to



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day is a little different, but we've had some days where the dry fly



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action has just been remarkably productive,



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followed by a day where it's you look and there's



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not a whole lot of, um,



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heads to be found. But, um,



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again, we're just around the corner from



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that happening.



Marvin Cash:

Uh, very, very neat. And we don't have a question this time. Jay,



Marvin Cash:

if I lost your question, dude, I'm sorry. Send it to me



Marvin Cash:

again. Uh, we'll use it next time. But as I always say, we



Marvin Cash:

love questions on the articulate fly. You can email them to us



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or dm us, uh, on social media. And if we



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use your question, I will send you some articulate fly swag. And we are



Marvin Cash:

drawing for a half a day of fishing with Dustin. And you know,



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Dustin, as we always do, we gotta give a shout out to one of the



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local watering holes.



Dustin White:

Yeah.



Marvin Cash:

Yeah.



Dustin White:

And this one's gotta be the sunset grill. Not to be



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confused with the, uh, uh, boomtown



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and the sunrise plaza that we kinda highlighted, uh,



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a couple m months ago. But the sunset grilled is an



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alcove. And if you're getting off the mile or



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off the reef and want just a great



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hole in the wall divey bar, but



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with great service, uh, there. And,



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uh, in my opinion, one of the best greasy burgers



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there is to find, it's definitely at the sunset grill.



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So, you know, it's right off 220, um, almost



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immediately after as you pull out of the gray reef or leave



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Alcova, um, just a great spot. I mean,



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it's, you know, dollar bills that someone's



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scrawled some sort of message, uh, both



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appropriate and inappropriate on it and tuck



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it to the wall there. Uh, uh, it's, it's that sort of the



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spot, but the folks there are just super



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friendly. Um, um, like I said, great little hole in



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the wall food. Um, uh, and, uh, you know, if you want



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a really cheap, uh, uh, tall boy, pbr.



Dustin White:

That's. That's the spot to do it.



Marvin Cash:

Yeah. Just a slightly longer walk home, right?



Dustin White:

Yeah, it's not a walk home sort of spot. You know, if you.



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If you have a little much. Uh, we got the windy



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waters, uh, you know, rv park, uh, across the street



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that, uh, our friend Steve and Julie own. And,



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uh, they'll host you for the night if, uh,



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you can't get home safely. So, ah, it's a great



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little spot. Cool, um, little area.



Dustin White:

And, uh, I definitely recommend getting the beer battered



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french fries, uh, with your burger. Ah,



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it's definitely an experience that, uh, everyone



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should try, uh, as you leave the reef and leave the



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mile.



Marvin Cash:

Yeah, there you go. You know, you haven't lived until you've, uh,



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slept, uh, overnight in a trash bag on a picnic table.



Dustin White:

Exactly. And that's the spot to do it. They'll take good care



Dustin White:

of you.



Marvin Cash:

Well, there you go. Well, you know, as we get on the other side of Labor Day, I



Marvin Cash:

know that the bug now, uh, has their kind of



Marvin Cash:

non high season hours, right?



Dustin White:

Yeah. Yeah. We're back to our normal, typical



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business hours. We're not open Sundays. Uh,



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Saturdays close at 04:00 uh, throughout the



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week, 9930 to 530, if I



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believe. Um, I actually don't know the start time. I'm on the



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water every day, uh, when that's occurring. But,



Dustin White:

yeah, we're in kind of the standard business hours there.



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But folks, uh, want to give the shop a



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call that, uh, they'll. They'll be happy



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to acquiesce any sort of request you have, whether



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that's booking a guide trip or help for, you



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know, what. What hatch is occurring, what flies you need



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getting you out of to get on the water. We're happy to do that.



Marvin Cash:

Yeah. And so, you know, how many, uh, I guess more



Marvin Cash:

days do you have before you kind of pivot, uh, right before



Marvin Cash:

the holidays and head up and chase steelhead?



Dustin White:

Yeah, I'm pretty full through October,



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so it's still busy. We get a



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little bit of a late summer, uh, dip.



Dustin White:

I wouldn't even say it's a lull. Just I can actually have a



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five day workweek rather than a seven day



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work week or six day workweek. Um, so we're back



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into the swing of busy stuff. So it's



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kind of, you know, back into a grind, you know, pushing through



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all the way through October. Um, um, but, um,



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um, as, as, you know, you've experienced before, this is



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such a fun time of year to fish. Um, um, you know, we're



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stripping streamers. We're, you know, we're throwing hoppers. Uh,



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uh, we're throwing drys. There's just a ton of



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variety, uh, uh, just around the corner and right



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now. So, you know, we're legitimately days away



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from, from that kind of really kicking into full



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effect.



Marvin Cash:

Yeah. And good drinking weather, too.



Dustin White:

Exactly. It's real my, you know, once we get that mildest, get a little



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cloud cover coming in, you know, really pleasant



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days on the water with, uh, uh, just to be



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out there with a friend. Have a beer, uh uh, catch some good fish. Um



Dustin White:

um, it's. Yeah, it's. It's an enjoyable time, for sure.



Marvin Cash:

Yeah. Opens up the dark liquor verticals, uh uh, at the



Marvin Cash:

bar. So, uh, certainly



Marvin Cash:

does.



Dustin White:

Yeah, certainly, uh, does.



Marvin Cash:

And so, as I always say, folks, you owe it to yourself to get out there



Marvin Cash:

and catch a few tight lines, everybody. Tight lines.



Marvin Cash:

Dustin.



Dustin White:

Tight lines. Marvin.




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Dustin White

Guide

Born and raised in Northeast Ohio, Dustin had a rod in his hand soon after he started walking. He spent much of his childhood and adolescence fishing for muskie, pike, and bass on his family’s lake property. Any and all family trips were spent on the water chasing numerous species of fish in both freshwater and saltwater. However, Dustin’s favorite form of angling has and will always be targeting Trout and Steelhead on the fly. Dustin spends his winters guiding for Steelhead on the tributaries of Lake Erie. Dustin is a graduate of Sweetwater Travel Guide School, and he is a proud pro-staff member of a number of the industry’s top manufacturers. He is also the cofounder and director of “Nimi on the Fly,” a nonprofit charity that seeks to promote character building, enrichment, and conservation with youth the sport of fly fishing.