In this episode of The Articulate Fly, host Marvin Cash wraps up the Central Wyoming season with Dustin White in his final On the Water of the year. Dustin shares the current fishing conditions as the season comes to a close, noting the cooler mornings and the progression of hatches throughout the day. He offers tips on fly selection, recommending a tandem dry fly rig with a larger caddis and a blue wing for afternoon fishing, and emphasizes the importance of staying stealthy in low, clear water.
Dustin also discusses the streamer game, highlighting the effectiveness of slow retrieves and natural colors in the morning. He shares his favorite spots and techniques for targeting eager fish, despite the challenges posed by floating moss in the water.
Before announcing the winner of the season's drawing for a half-day fishing trip with Dustin, the duo reminisces about a favorite local spot, Wyoming Ale Works, known for its extensive menu and killer cocktails. They encourage listeners to visit and enjoy the vibrant atmosphere.
As the western season winds down, Dustin invites listeners to join him for steelhead fishing in the east with Mad River Outfitters. He shares contact details for those interested in experiencing the thrill of chasing Lake Erie chrome in the cold months ahead.
Listeners are reminded of the joys of fishing in any season and encouraged to get out and enjoy the water. Tight lines!
To learn more about Dustin, check out our full length interview.
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Marvin: Hey folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly,
Marvin: and we're back with the final on the water of the season with Dustin White. Dustin, how are you?
Dustin: Marvin, I'm doing great. How are you doing, my friend?
Marvin: As always, just trying to stay out of trouble, and you're in the home stretch.
Marvin: You've only got a few weeks left out west, right?
Dustin: Yep, yep. We're in the home stretch in a really fun time of year to be guiding,
Dustin: but yeah, the the official season is is ticking down yeah.
Marvin: And so you know probably got i don't know i think the last time we spoke you
Marvin: had good dry fly fishing and the streamer bite was pretty good what are you seeing right now.
Dustin: Yeah much of the same thing we've
Dustin: definitely had cooler mornings right now so you know the overnight lows are
Dustin: are dipping down into the 30s and so early mornings you know very very crisp
Dustin: very very cool takes a little bit to get a hatch going so it's it's It's probably
Dustin: mid-morning before you get a really,
Dustin: really decent hatch and start seeing some heads looking up.
Dustin: But if you're out on the water, they're in all of those surefire spots.
Dustin: You turn that bend, you see that
Dustin: soft core in the river, that eddy there right at the edge of the seam.
Dustin: Those fish are looking up. It definitely gets better throughout the day.
Dustin: That first kind of hatch we're seeing is primarily data.
Dustin: And I would say throughout the day, that's the primary bug they're really keyed on now.
Dustin: As the afternoon temps warm up, they start looking for caddis.
Dustin: So I would say in the afternoon, Marvin, is the perfect time to run kind of
Dustin: that tandem dry fly rig of a larger caddis as your point fly.
Dustin: And then running a blue wing off the back, definitely worthwhile to do that.
Dustin: Fish are a little bit spooky.
Dustin: We're in low, pretty clear water now. So, you know, folks, if you're going to
Dustin: out, you know, need to be able to air out a fairly significant cast on a pretty tight target.
Dustin: But if you do and can kind of keep some distance, those fish are very, very eager to eat.
Dustin: With the streamer game, we're starting to see, you know, again in the morning
Dustin: with those lower temps, they want to slow retrieve, more natural colors,
Dustin: tan, whites, some olives.
Dustin: Although the olive hasn't been quite as productive because we do have a lot
Dustin: of moss breaking free in the water.
Dustin: And so with that slow retrieve, seeing an olive fly, it kind of gets camouflaged
Dustin: into looking like, you know, the vegetation floating down the river.
Dustin: So sticking with not too obtrusive colors, tans, whites, slow retrieves in the
Dustin: morning, kicking them up in
Dustin: the afternoon, are having some pretty good success there in the streamers.
Marvin: Yeah, so you're saying your trout aren't vegans?
Dustin: No, not too much. Not unless they have to be.
Marvin: Well, there you go. Well, before we announce the winner of the drawing,
Marvin: why don't you let folks know our last shout out of the season on the restaurant bar front?
Dustin: Yeah, I'm going to go back to where you, myself, and our owner,
Dustin: Blake Jackson, had a few cocktails and I indulged myself in a pretty significant
Dustin: pork chop, which is Wyoming Aleworks.
Marvin: Yeah, it's a good spot.
Dustin: Yeah great spot i mean killer staff a
Dustin: variety menu um so if you
Dustin: want to go pretty basic where it's just kind of a
Dustin: burger wings you can get that there if you want to have a great steak or a really
Dustin: fantastic salad um that can definitely suit your fancy but you know very extensive
Dustin: beer menu their drafts are great uh but also have just a great bar staff that
Dustin: can make a killer cocktail as well.
Dustin: And especially this time of year when we're fishing through town,
Dustin: east of town, it's a great place of proximity for us to pull off the river,
Dustin: go grab a bite to eat, share a drink with some friends or clients when we get off the water.
Dustin: So Wyoming Aleworks right on 2nd Street, a great spot that we all know and love
Dustin: very well here in Casper, Wyoming.
Marvin: And you're quite partial to the thick cut pork chop, right?
Dustin: Well, yeah, you, you know, you go with that bourbon apple chutney that they
Dustin: put on it and it's pretty hard to beat.
Marvin: Yeah, I'm trying to remember. I can't remember what I had. I think I probably
Marvin: went red meat, but that's, that's just me.
Dustin: And it obviously would have been, you know, definitely a win.
Dustin: Everything they have there is great. And so, yeah, you can't go wrong there.
Dustin: So whether you want something a little or lowbrow, highbrow,
Dustin: folks can find something that they can enjoy there.
Marvin: Yeah, there you go. And so, you know, as we always do every season,
Marvin: we take all the questions that were submitted, put the names in the hat,
Marvin: put the Google random number generator and pull out a name.
Marvin: And remember, we're drawing for a half a day of fishing out west with Dustin. And the winner is Paul.
Marvin: Paul, I hope I get your last name. I pronounced it correctly. It's Previtali.
Marvin: And Paul, if you'll reach out to me, and I'll reach out to you,
Marvin: Paul. And Paul, if you reach out to me, we'll get you hooked up and connected with Dustin.
Marvin: And so your season is winding down out west, but you're going to be heading
Marvin: east and people can go freeze with you along the alley and fish for steelhead.
Marvin: What's the best way for them to reach out and get on your guidebook?
Dustin: Yeah, absolutely. You can, just like here out west, you can reach out to me
Dustin: on my Instagram at Dustin James White.
Dustin: Be happy to chat with you about dates. We can get you on the books.
Dustin: I'm guiding with Mad River Outfitters this year, so you can also give the shop
Dustin: a call, whatever suits your fancy, but would love to get you out in the alley
Dustin: in Northeast Ohio, Northwest Pennsylvania, and chase some Lake Erie Chrome.
Marvin: Yeah, and experience, you know, true cold.
Dustin: True cold. I think the last time you and I were out on the water together,
Dustin: there was, I'd hate to call it a monsoon, but it came down pretty quick on us.
Dustin: We got out of there just in the nick of time, if I remember right.
Marvin: Yeah, I think that we trusted you to walk back through the waterfall,
Marvin: but we went the long way down.
Dustin: Yeah, yes. Set you back the path. I went back, traversed the waterfall,
Dustin: and then came back around and circled back and picked you up.
Marvin: Yeah, that was some Indiana Jones stuff. I mean, that was kind of crazy.
Dustin: It came out of nowhere. Yeah, that was one of the gnarly ones we've had.
Dustin: But you did come away with the fish of the fall on that one.
Dustin: That was a memorable fish. I think the last one you got or second to last one you got was a dandy.
Dustin: So it capped it off pretty well before the rains came down on us. Pretty intense.
Marvin: Yeah, it's kind of funny. We really did whack them. And then,
Marvin: of course, I was the only person who flew up. So I was basically by myself in
Marvin: the snow, uh, waiting to go home the next day, but, uh, but made it out and, uh, yeah, great trip.
Marvin: And, you know, I would say, you know, I have a newfound appreciation for Tim
Marvin: Horton's coffee, right?
Dustin: Absolutely. Yeah. You get some, some Tim Horton's, uh, coffee,
Dustin: some 10 bits and, and you're in good shape.
Marvin: Well, listen, folks, you know, love bringing these to you. Dustin and I love
Marvin: doing these together, you know, time to kind of shift gears depending on where
Marvin: you are. Steelhead's a great way to put a pretty significant bend in your rod when it's cold outside.
Marvin: And as I always say, you owe it to yourself to get out there and catch a few.
Marvin: Tight lines, everybody. Tight lines, Dustin.
Dustin: Tight lines, Marvin. Thanks so much.
Guide
Born and raised in Northeast Ohio, Dustin had a rod in his hand soon after he started walking. He spent much of his childhood and adolescence fishing for muskie, pike, and bass on his family’s lake property. Any and all family trips were spent on the water chasing numerous species of fish in both freshwater and saltwater. However, Dustin’s favorite form of angling has and will always be targeting Trout and Steelhead on the fly. Dustin spends his winters guiding for Steelhead on the tributaries of Lake Erie. Dustin is a graduate of Sweetwater Travel Guide School, and he is a proud pro-staff member of a number of the industry’s top manufacturers. He is also the cofounder and director of “Nimi on the Fly,” a nonprofit charity that seeks to promote character building, enrichment, and conservation with youth the sport of fly fishing.